HD-DVD vs Blu-Ray

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  1. Puck

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    for as good as the upscaling is in the Ps3, I'm not sure there's enough incentive to replace the DVD's with BR

    we've purchased very few BR titles to this point
    we do have Planet Earth on BR whch felt like a must own
    but there really aren't any movies I feel like plopping $30 for

    sre I plan on adding LotR, Blade Runner, SW (Iv,V,Vi) etc... as soon as the prices drop .. the trick is that more adopters will have to join the clan before prices start to fall
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  2. Gunny

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    There may be no incentive, but in the end, you won't have a choice. The movie industry is moving on to High Def (it's the new fad). TVs, TV Shows, Blu Ray, Video Games are all doing it

    You think they will waste money manufacturing high def movies and have it optional? Not happening.
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  3. Puck

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    it's not going to happen anytime soon

    the simple switch to DTV (digital television) aka the NTSC to ATSC conversion ,has taken twice as long as it should have. What is now a mandate for early 2009 (2/17/2009), was originally set for various points for the last 5 years or so
    and this is a standardized conversion that's been in the works since the early 90's and will not be fully implemented until almost 20 years after the fact
    which (when 'activated') will force (supposedly) everyone in the US to :
    A- get a new HDTV
    B- get a Digital set-top box that will convert D-A for analog sets

    sure to be a 'culture shock'


    now, you're gonna force them (at nearly the same time) to get new DVD players ? you're joking right ?
    there will still be choice.
    Any movie released on BluRay will still be released in DVD format

    we are not about to see an absolute abandonment of the DVD format
    (if that's what you're suggesting)
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  4. Starkiller

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    People will be buying DVDs well into the next decade. And I wouldn't be surprised if, by then, there is already a new format that has surpassed Blu-Ray
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  5. Puck

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    the consumer market tends to always be a format behind the leading technology anyway, so even though early adopters will get some satisfaction from an eventual winner of the HD format war, it probably won't have that large of an impact on the mass consumer markets

    if anything, it might drive DVD popularity up do to price drops of an aging and departing format, but it's not going anywhere .... as long as people are buying DVD PLAYERS (which are now less than $50 with Recorders in the $100-$200 range) and DVD movies (dipping into the single digits) the DVD format will continue to live on

    in order to truely replace it with Blu-Ray, players will need to dip into the $200 range, titles into the $19.99 range, and recorders with affordable media will need to surface
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  6. Starkiller

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    The problem is that there isn't really a big enough leap between DVD and blu-ray to drive a rapid push to upgrade. Yes, it's visible, but not big enough for most people.

    On the other hand, there was a huge leap in quality and simplicity going from VHS to DVD. And Laserdisc got leapfrogged.
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  7. Laserjock

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    Yeah...I was in the laserdisc crowd. Still have one of the top Pioneer players in my closet and a big collection of laserdiscs, including the original Star Wars collection. Cannot seem to get myself to dump them, though I have been encouraged to do so.

    As much a fan of BR as I am, because I do see the difference in upconverted standard DVD and BR titles, which may be due to having a 73" set to view them on, I also wonder if this is not an interim format.

    With flash memory coming down and with online delivery of media growing I wonder if the DVD "killer" in the future might not be simply either be a memory card type of media or a VOD type of service. I have read some reviews of a couple of the ones displayed at CES that are dedicated to only providing HD movies via satellite, but I definitely don't want another dish on my house at this point.
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  8. Gunny

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    The bandwidth needed for downloadable movies won't be available for a very very long time.

    And it will be too easily pirated. And it really isn't on demand, you will have to wait for it.
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  9. Starkiller

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    People are already downloading them. Apple seems to have the right plan, though we'll have to see how it works out for them. They aren't in 1080i, but it's still HD.

    As for piracy, downloadable movies aren't realyy going to change anything there. People can just pirate the ones on DVD. It's like adding DRM to music to keep people from pirating it. How does that help when regular CDs have no DRM at all and people can just create mp3s from them and share them?
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  10. Starkiller

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    I can understand the desire to keep it. My brother bought one and got a bunch of discs. It just sits in a corner collecting dust, but it's also the last original version of the Star Wars trilogy before Lucas did special editions, so they aren't going to get tossed.
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