Bullcrap jeff... First of all the comparison i made was mcnair in 2002 not 2003. 2003 was an atypical year for him. The stats point out an obvious fact that mcnair's play was relatively typical compared to what he has done most of his career and i would rather look at the numbers than rely on some lame observations.) Just because i blew up a couple of times when he made a mistake doesn't mean anything. He fumbled the ball in the end zone and gave the raiders a free TD. So? Most of last year i defended him. Mcnair's passing rating in 2005 was better than it was in 97, 98, 99, similar to what it was in 2000 and 2002. Considering the support he had why would i consider him done? I own a tape of the music city miracle game when mcnair circa jan 2000 at age 26 and 11 months looked weak and ineffective throwing the ball. Was that because of age? Give me a letter grade for the following areas of this team in 2005. RBs O-line WR D+ across the board or worse? Yet steve had what is historically a typical year for him passing the football. Swap mcnair for many quality QBs and he puts up similar stats on those other teams. It's not a stretch at all to think that mcnair could have put up the 87 passing rating throwing to steve smith that delomme put up at carolina. Mcnair couldn't be effective in that denver offense? How about the seahawks? The colts? The bengals? I'm not saying he is top shelf any longer but he still is pretty good.