Faulk says Titans known for not paying players (new CJ contract)

Cruds is right, the money is being spent, just not on CJ.

Roos, Stewart, Washington, Young, Thornton, and Hope are all VERY well paid. Last year, Bulluck and KVB were well paid also. Scaife has been one of the most well paid TEs in the league, and he certainly isn't giving us that level of production. We had to overpay Collins because of Vince's setback two years ago, so now we're locked into about 14 million in compensation to QBs this season. (if we keep Collins)


Players want to be respected, players want to feed their families, players provide the entertainment... Bull!

Feed their families? CJ got 7 million dollars before he went to his first training camp. If he handled it right, he had a lot of security for life as of that day. Has anyone here every made 7 million dollars in one day? If he didn't put away at least a million after taxes he's a fool to an incredible degree.

Players aren't looking to be respected, they're looking to get paid (money is respect, but tangible). Owners are looking to make money because they risked a lot of money by investing in the NFL. They pay out these ridiculous contracts. They give the Jamarcuses $30 million for nothing. They used to have to pay for the entire cost of massive stadiums. We don't feel sorry for them because they're generally very very rich men. That doesn't mean that they should throw away their wealth for our entertainment.

This case is ridiculous, as is the Andre Johnson case, because both players signed contracts that have a lot of years left on them. They're both incredibly risky for the teams because they're both super star players who should be the faces of their team. However, if either team breaks and pays the player now, they risk setting a bad precedent for every good player in the future holding out, and never playing a year for less than market value. If this had happened a few years ago, Griffen would have held out last season, and we would have had to massively overpay him before watching him regress. Finnegan would probably be clamoring to redo his contract, because he's not getting close to top corner money. The combination of these factors would mean that we'd be dumping three or four good players, and the team would be worse.

For the sake of our team, I hope that the team waits to pay him until next season.



All this being said, I think this is being blown out of proportion, and CJ will show up for camp. He starts getting fined when he starts missing camp, and starts losing checks when he starts missing games. I think he's doing this to get everyone talking, so that everyone KNOWS that next year he's getting paid, which is still early, buying out two years of his contract.

Seriously, if he sat down with the Titans today, and they told him they would pay him $10 million per year, the highest contract for a running back in the league, but they'd have to agree on how much to discount it for giving it to him three years early, he'd probably end up only getting 6 or 7 million per year if it came out to fair value. The problem is, he's not going to agree to discount fair value for the years that he already agreed to. Which is why he shouldn't be given a new contract this offseason, as well as for reasons listed above.

 

I'm not going to pretend I read through all 5 pages of discussion but here are my thoughts...

- CJ is definitely worth more than he's set to receive
- CJ definitely deserves to be one of the highest paid RBs in the league
- CJ must understand the dynamics of the uncapped year (i.e. 30% rule) and STFU and play

Don't get me wrong, I love CJ and realize how important he is to this team. But it would be insanity for the Titans to give him the kind of deal he's looking for at this point in time. We simply can't give him a massive front loaded contract. There's just too much risk. If the 30% rule didn't exist, I'd totally be on CJ's side as he's clearly outperformed his rookie contract in a major way. Unfortunately for him, it does exist.

I can definitely see where CJ is coming from though. But at the end of the day he's already getting paid very handsomely to play a freaking game. I get so sick of hearing all these former players and analysts (mostly former players) talking about how guys have to "maximize" their opportunity and get as much as they possibly can when they can. BS. Sure in a perfect world that would be great. But the fact is that CJ is looking for a new deal in the worst possible year to do so. Bad luck. IT HAPPENS. It would be completely childish and selfish for him to sit out over this. Say the worst case scenario happens... he doesn't get a new deal and has a career-ending injury this season. As horrible and disappointing as that would be, the guy is still a millionaire many times over and has banked more money than most people will ever see in their lifetime simply for playing a game for 3 years. The amount of greed in pro sports is really disgusting... and it's certainly not all on the players.

 

Wish I could high five this 100 times.

 

Laughing at anyone falling for that one. The Titans are cheap, face it. Those lists are fine and dandy, but how many of these top tier teams we're trying to emulate have the two over paid QB's we have? How many have the overpaid second string TE? Our money is spent on players who don't show up. And by that I mean lineman don't show you anything. They do their job, and line up and keep doing it. If we spent money on worthwhile skill positions people wouldn't think we're a cheap franchise. When it comes to WR's & RB's we try that old "plug-n-play" method from the 60's. The NFL is ran by elite athletes, not the fat lineman or the Nate Washington's & Justin Gages of the world. Steelers, Pats, Colts wouldn't be winning these games year after year if they didn't have athletes making money. Sure Manning is slow and goofy, but when he won his ring it came from athletic pass rushers, and a RB. Ben Rapsaburger needed some good WR's to get his titles. All these teams with rings have better skill players than us. We finally get one and we pay him worse than a backup punter.

What you need to do is take that list and dump $10M to see where we really are.

 

Hate.hate.hate.

Jcbrave is very right on the fact we over pay second tier players, and don't pay top athletes as much as we should, IMO. And apparently a lot of others on this board. But with the uncapped year it's very hard to pay cj what he wants.

 

boy is there a bunch of idiots on this thread

 

Agreed.

Nate Washington and Kerry Collins are so ridiculously overpaid. It's not even funny.

 

^Yea but dump the dead players collecting big money and were in the bottom of the league. Lose $5M for Collins, lose $4M for Scaife and we go from middle to bottom. Those 2 guys don't do squat.