Desean Jackson released

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  1. RavensShallBurn

    RavensShallBurn Ruck the Favens

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    So you think CJ was more valuable to the Titans than AP to the Vikings from 2011-2013?

    How about when AP dragged his team to the playoffs in 2012? When did CJ do this?

    AP is a far better RB than CJ, and those who cannot accept that are...

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  2. LosingBy3

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    AP is one of the best running backs i've ever seen, he's the one true example that a really solid playmaker can drag his team to glory whether they like it or not. If CJ had been putting forth that kind of effort, we could have had a super bowl by now, or at the very least, and AFC south title... not saying much, I know, but we could have at least dropped houston and jacksonville the way we should have.

    But... it's just like anything else, if it makes sense, it won't happen, CJ keeps falling over when a slight breeze from another player passes by him, and those 2000 yards that mattered so much, are meaningless now.

    We need a running back that's like a T90 tank, sturdy, but fast, and runs over anything in his way.
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  3. Scarecrow

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    Jackson is likely going to Oakland, nothing odd about that.
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  4. LosingBy3

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    He'll fit right in at oakland.
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  5. 615nick

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    Another ignorant cj basher, there are plenty of real knocks on the guy I was siimply stating your argument sucked. If cj plays every game that is a plus, if ap or x guys misses time every year it.is a significant downfall. Also to compare a power back to a speed back makes no since, idk who started the ap comparisons but they have two completely different styles. In order for a speed back to have consistent success the blocking and play calling must be on point. This does make a speed.back less valuable as far as pay is consernede. Our play calling and blocking have been horrible the last couple of years and you can't even argue that. A power back can push the line even if his blocking and playcalling isn't on point. This would make a good power back more valuable on a bad team, see adp.

    If cj is on a team with 2 or 3 big play threats, a decent qb, good blocking and good play calling he would be the most deadly back in the league. Yes that is asking a lot of our titans but we paid.him big money because we thought we had those pieces. We now have mccluster and wright as threats, with hunter, washington and walker all being able to slightly scare a d, a good coaching staff ( we hope), will have better blocking and play calling that fits our players. He would do very well under these circumstances.

    Do I think he deserves 8m, no. he deserves around 4 or 5. Should we keep him, yes. our fo.paid the guy he didn't force them to do it. Be mad at them not cj, anybody who was in his position ( rushing for 2k, as a rb), would cash in on it. Idc what you say if I offered you a contract like that you would not turn it down and when the team thought they were overpaying, you would want to see your options, because your family is first, the more.money you make the better off they are
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    So in that time frame, minus his monster year 2012 where he was unstoppable and lead them to a first round loss to the Packers where he was kept out the end zone. AP has lead his team to 6 wins? That's 16 wins total, if he's so great why can't he lead his team to more wins like people want CJ to do by himself?

    I'm not even defending CJ at this point I'm just curious in the reasoning now how the greatest running back on the field can't get his team to 500 in 2 of the last 3 seasons.

    I initially posted these are the reasons I'd like to try to go more passing and give Jackson a shot, if you guys want to continue arguing how valuable a RB is or what stats matter I'm all for it. Jackson helped his team last year and in my opinion a better value IF he can stay out of trouble. Which is a big if and his contract should reflect that.
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  7. RavensShallBurn

    RavensShallBurn Ruck the Favens

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    Donovan McNabb (the McNabb who got benched in favor of Rex Grossman), Christian Ponder, Joe Webb, Matt Cassel, Josh Freeman, and the worst pass defense in 2013.

    Even if AP was Jesus that team would still suck.

    Barry Sanders never came close to winning anything... So I guess guys like Antowain Smith, Willie Parker, Rashard Mendenhall, Joseph Addai, Pierre Thomas, James Starks, and Ahmad Bradshaw are all better than Barry Sanders.

    After all they won more than Sanders. Therefore, they must've been more important to their teams. Logical.
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  8. GTFO my pancakz

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    I will be mad at him for not doing his job 100%. You know the same job AP does. Hell yea I'm going to be mad at CJ. I was a supporter of his until he decided to grow a vagina. He's not signing with us either so idk what you guys don't understand. He will take a pay cut for the other 31 teams but not the Titans. You know the only team that would have drafted him in the first anyway. Way to be appreciative CJ.
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  9. Hormesis

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    Thread title "Desean Jackson released"- first thought- lets look at the thread and catch up on the latest CJ argument. Five pages in is not bad at all.
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  10. 2ToneBlue

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    For their teams yes they were more important pieces of the puzzle. They were important enough to help the unit win it all which so far AP has not, and Barry Sanders never could.

    Fun Barry Sanders Playoff facts:
    5 out of 10 seasons he went to the playoffs
    Sanders played in 6 NFL playoff games and scored only once in the 4th quarter of a 31-6 game.
    He ran for -1 yard on 13 carries in the 1994 playoffs
    Of his 386 total rushing yards in the playoffs, 169 of those were in 1 game.
    Averaged just over 60 yards per game.
    Only two of those 6 games did he run for more than 4.0YPC.

    Addai: over 600 yards and 4 tds in the playoffs
    Thomas: 5 games, 4 tds.
    Smith: Ran for 83 yards and TD in the Super Bowl, 4tds total in 8 games
    I could go on but don't really need to continue do I?

    I'd say yes they were more valuable to their teams in the playoffs. How can you get worse than running for -1 yard in a playoff game? Barry was not a good playoff running back.
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