Boise State 2012 BCS National Champions

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  1. Fry

    Fry Hatin' is what I do.

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    There is no champion in college football. There has never been a champion in college football.

    There is no way a team that doesn't win it's conference should be in the title game, alas, Oklahoma was there in 2003 without winning it's conference. Who gets jobbed? USC, who had the same record as Oklahoma and won it's conference.

    USC was awarded the AP Championship, resulting in a split national title between LSU and USC.

    The BCS sucks. The only argument that can be made in the BCS's favor is it sucks slightly less than what we had before. Yay.
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  2. Tennessy XO

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    The BCS is a joke. Your claims of it matches #1 and #2 against each other is pointless.

    How you determine who #1 and #2 is why the system sucks.

    Human voters and computer algorithms.

    I don't know about everyone else but I like my championships decided on the field.

    Our only hope is the super conferences that are now forming and the eventual break away from the NCAA.
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  3. Alex1939

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    The BCS works great and the formula is simple...


    Play in a major conference, go undefeated, and you will play for a national championship. (the only time this failed was for Auburn in 2004 because there were 3 undefeated major conference teams) If you have a loss in college then you have lost your right to complain about not making the championship, imo.

    One of the reasons the regular season in college is so epic.
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  4. Deuce Wayne

    Deuce Wayne Damnit, I cant find my driving moccasins anywhere!

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    Alex... the last man on earth still defending the completely flawed BCS system.

    "works great"...

    haha right.
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  5. Ryudo

    Ryudo The wall crusher!

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    Yeah when a team busts the BCS twice goes undefeated and gets no shot at the championship esp in a year they were the ONLY undefeated team in the country and dismantled the team that was supposed to beat them according to the "experts"
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  6. RollTide

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    There have been 11 split championships.

    Examples.

    1978 Alabama/USC
    1990 Colorado/Georgia Tech
    1991 Miami/Washington
    1997 Michigan/Nebraska
    2003 USC/LSU



    There used to be 2 polls the upi coaches poll and the AP poll. Those polls didn't always agree.

    The BCS system is far far superior to the old system but more frustrating in some ways.

    Conferences has contractual ties to bowl games.

    Big ten-Pac 10 to the rose bowl.

    Big 8 champ(Usually Oklahoma or Nebraska) to the orange bowl.

    SEC champ to the sugar bowl.

    So if Alabama was #1 and Oklahoma was #2 they couldn't play each other!

    This gave a huge advantage to the independents and Penn State, Miami and Florida State were all independents before the BCs. So of course was Notre Dame. They could go to whatever bowl game they wanted.

    It was more interesting in some ways though because the 3rd or 4th ranked teams still had a shot at the national title. If #3 plays #1 in a bowl and wins and #2 loses they are champs.

    The frustrating aspect of the old system was when you clearly had 2 top teams and they could never play each other. Like in 94 when Penn state led by Kerry Collins went unbeaten and Nebraska went unbeaten. Nebraska won the title and Penn State got 2nd best.
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  7. RollTide

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    Simple solution to all our problems that keeps the BCS and keeps the bowl games tradition.

    #1 plays #4 in a BCS bowl game.

    #2 plays #3 in a BCS bowl.

    Winners meet for one national championship game during the super bowl break.

    You get a valid national championship. You don't have to play 16 games to win it and academics don't suffer.

    Is that too simple and logical?
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  8. RollTide

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    Or let's try this..


    The champion of the state of Alabama gets handed the trophy. The iron bowl is the national championship!

    Who has won the last 2 titles?
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  9. Alex1939

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    Again, there has never been a split BCS Championship.



    Here's a fantasy land idea that I would support...

    The SEC, after adding Texas A&M, Oklahoma, FLorida State, VTech, should cede from the NCAA. Just play a full conference schedule nothing out of the SEC. The SEC champion is dubbed the "National Champion".

    Let the other conferences and NCAA schools debate it, who cares? I don't think the SEC would lose money (in football) by leaving the NCAA and not playing out of conference foes. Already got the deal with ESPN as the pusher.

    If anything the other college football programs in the NCAA would be way more hurt by losing the SEC.
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  10. Alex1939

    Alex1939 Old Man Tip Jar Donor

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    Here's my problem with this idea.

    What if #1 and #2 are undefeated and #3 and #4 have one loss? Makes the 4 team playoff unnecessary and pointless. And I'm sure there would be other 1 loss teams that could say the deserved the 4 spot.
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