Asante Samuel

Problem is...

It's not what Asante is worth in a vacuum, it's what his market value is. If he was so fantastic, why are the eagles getting rid of him?

The eagles like Nandi and dec on the outside and Asante is also an outside guy. He's not as good in the slot and his cap number is easily too high!

I don't think the titans would be interested in trading a 3rd pick for Asante when he'll just get released if no one makes a trade!!!

The eagles are Very interested in Asante leaving the team and removing a huge chunk of money off their roster.

Gut

 

Couldn't be much worse than Hope and Griffin.

 

Well...

If you mean in run support and tackling, you are 100% correct. If you mean in pass coverage, you're right...it's not close - Asante is superior!

Gut

 

No...

That's his cap hit to the eagles which includes the pro-rated portion of his signing bonus which would not be part of his base salary nor what he'd count against our cap. He'd probably count around 8 mill for us on his current deal but we'd almost certainly demand to rework his deal if they wanted anything close to a 3rd or 4th rnd pick cuz otherwise, you'd be trading a mid-round pick for a one year deal since most contracts escalate drastically in the final years (backloading deals).

Gut

 

Um...

In my first post in this thread I gave asante's pass against stats from last year which are anywhere from top 2 to top 7 if I remember correctly. He was awesome in completion % against and qb rating against. That says it all. If he was getting burned as much as some suggest, his completion % and qb rating against would not be so HIGH!!!

Gut

 

Lol...

Monstrous play? The stats suggest/prove you are incorrect. Monstrous play does not give you a top 5 qb rating against qb's and a top 10 completion percentage against. Those are elite numbers and are impossible is people were picking on him. Furthermore, he only gave up 29 receptions last year which is remarkably low and he was also targeted a measly 61 times. Even the great Darrelle Revis was targeted over 80 times...but they were picking on Samuel? Btw, our own Jason McCourty was target about 117 times and gave him a pretty high completion percentage (but was an awesome tackler and despite all the completions, only gave up ONE td). Sorry, your argument about Samuel doesn't make sense.

Gut

 

Didn't Samuel hardly play last year? I might be wrong on this.

 

Well...

Think of it this way.

We get Samuel to play for us and make our team better this year and the eagles get ZERO value for losing him this year. That's why when teams trade future draft picks, they are considered to have the value of a the next round. So next years third is the equivalent to this years fourth.

Plus, he should help the team and if he does, we should get into the playoffs and do some damage so instead of getting the 20th pick on the third rnd or there a bouts, hopefully it will be much closer to the end of the round.

So if he plays well, they will get a 3rd next year which hopefully and realistically should be close to am4th rnd pick and conventionally was already worth a 4th rnd pick.

Hope that makes some sense!

Gut

 

Well...

Either we're going to pay him a ton of money, say guarantee half of his base this year to lower his cap hit the next couple of years...

Or he takes a reduction in salary but get a signing bonus so guaranteed money now...

Or, and what I'd hope for, they sign him to a 5 or 6 year deal with a decent signing bonus and an escalating base to save us the max cap now, he gets his guaranteed money, and we could keep him for 3 years without too much pain. He'd never see the end years of the contract, but that's how the dog and pony show are played! If we wanted to keep him longer, we could extend his contract and guarantee more of his salary to lower his cap hit.

Gut