Is this a new phenomenon? Battling harder to win, makes you better than others who have the talent to win, but play with less ardor, focus, intent, will, etc.??? So effort expended in winning makes winners? I know what you mean, Sir Hoffa, but don't you think the Titans have at times over-reached themselves in their wins? I think they have. So, I guess in this aspect I would still say the Titans have the edge.