See and I believe you have this whole thing wrong. Yes next year vince should be winning games for us, but a qb in his 2nd year is not supposed to be winning games. Look at jamarcus russell's start to the season. He's a #1 pick in his 2nd year, guess what, he's going to be bad this season. Even everyones precious boy jay cutler really lost the game for denver this weekend. If he doesn't get bailed out by the officials he has 2 critical turnovers in the 4th quarter. I'm smart enough to understand that qbs are not superstars in their 2nd years.