Discussion in 'Smack Central' started by imatexan, Dec 8, 2008.
No, don't completely dismiss them. Just sayin'
And yes... Yes we do need a short yardage guy.
Question for you Texans fans... what do you think of Kubiak and/or his staff?
From the outside (and I realize how perception can be totally wrong when you're not really following a team closely) but it seems like the Texans ought to be better than they have turned out to be. Happens each year, we all expect "this is the year they'll break out". My sense is that while there is obvious talent on the team, the whole is ending up as less than the sum of it's parts. Texans haven't really established an identity as a team yet.
I put things like that on the coaching - and obviously Capers and Casserly set you guys back in many ways, so it's not fair to put that on Kubiak yet. But would you say he's starting to turn that around? It's entirely possible that the hurricane absolutely trashed your season, and we'd be talking about Kubiak as coach of the year if you had gotten out to a better start. Just wondering what your general sense of things is?
A lot of people here are impatient (for obvious reasons), and they should look at this thing objectively.
Personally I think Kubiak has done a good job. First, he started in a hole, not at ground zero because of the ineptness of the C & C Factory. Not only did this team have hardly any talent, they had no depth at any position and faced salary cap issues.... Thanks Casserly... asshat.
Second, the offense has made leaps and bounds since the days of Davey and his Bangin' Hair with his 1...2....3..... fetal position offense.
Third, the glaring weakness of this team is defense. Save Williams, Ryans and (in my opinion, arguably) Robinson, this defense has nothing else. dibi (the rook LB) has shown some promise. Okoye, Weaver and T. Johnson aren't productive. Morlon Greenwood is an overpaid mediocre LB.
*the reason I mention Dunta Robinson is because I don't feel like he's a great corner. He plays the run well. He will make some plays on passes defended, but he gives up a lot too... For example: Remember the game in Houston that Rosencopter brought the Texans back to take the lead? Well the long pass that Collins completed down the sideline was on Dunta*
Defense, defense, defense.....
Depth, depth, depth.....
That's why the Texans cant seem to get over the hump.
lol Rosencopter is the best nickname.
This is a question that will be better answered next season as its the do or die season.... and no one can say until then.
But like you kinda already stated.... he took over a 2 win, capped strapped, David Carr led team. It was HORRIBLE and beyond the starters who most shouldnt even be starters in the NFL in the first place... .we had ZERO depth. He had to take an entire team and completely overhaul the roster almost entirely through the draft so far.
Capers and Casserly had 4 years to put a team together (from scratch mind you) and we basically got Andre Johnson, Dunta Robinson, and Chester Pitts out of it (3 current starters). Thats it. Oh, and K Kris Brown who is def. clutch.
Kubiak and Smith so far have had 3 offseasons (in cap hell btw) and they have added Owen Daniels, Kevin Walter, Eric Winston, Jacoby Jones, Vonte Leach, Mario Williams, Demeco Ryans, Xavier Adibi, Steve Slaton, Duane Brown, and Zack Diles. All are either very established NFL players or quickly on thier way. So I can already see a drastic difference in our drafting.
The offensive scheme is basically what you see in Denver as Kubiak was the OC there forever. He knows what he is doing on offense and you can bank on the Texans having a top NFL offense for as long as him and Alex Gibbs are here in Houston.
Defensively is where the most concern is at the moment. We have big time talent in areas, and huge holes in others. Its will be a focus this offseason.
We currently need our goal line RB to compliment Slaton, a big double teamed DT next to speedy Okoyee, a DE pass rusher opposite Mario and a true Safety with range. Of course more depth and possibly an upgrade at C.
With these additions to be focused on this coming off season and actually having some cap room.... again, next year will be this regimes defining year.
From what I have seen, there have been some questionable decisions Kubiak has made during games, but none of late. I truly think we are building a talented roster that isnt quite there yet but will get there. Lets see where he can take em if the pieces are mostly in place.
Not trying to pick a fight but cmon man really? You doubted D-Rob before he got hurt? Sure he wasnt the best CB in the league but he was getting better and better and was a true force on the field. And as far as the example goes... that was waaaaaaaaaaay more of a perfect pass from Collins than bad D from Dunta.... Dunta WAS ALL OVER HIM. You need to go watch that one again.
Correct me if I am wrong but didn't Casserly draft Mario before resigning?
I like Kubiak and think that he's good for your franchise. I'm not sure what it is that keeps you stumbling. It seems to me like you haven't really had a veteran player to take over the locker room and provide the presence that you need. Certainly not the entire problem, but something I could see coming up in the next couple of years as your core players reach veteran status.
I don't take a legit question as picking a fight.
Absolutely... Like I said, he plays the run well. He will defend a lot of passes but also gives up a lot, pre-injury or not. I didn't say he wasn't a good corner, what I am saying is that he isn't the shut-down corner we Texans fans sometimes make him out to be. As far as that play, I saw it in person and Collins hasn't thrown a perfect ball in his life. Penn State, Carolina, NY or otherwise. Dunta gambled and missed. Irrespective of how anyone saw it, here's the bottom line: A game saving play wasn't made. Shut-down corners make plays or dont have QB's throwing to their side of the field in that situation.
With all of that said, Dunta looks like a HOF'er when lined up next to Petey Faggins, Petey Reeves, or Petey Bennett.. Although, I feel Bennett will get better now that Dunta is back. That to me is where Dunta is the MOST valuable. Leadership from that standpoint.
To me the biggest stumbling block is the Defense. Can't win games when your offense goes out puts up 27, and ridiculous numbers BUT the defense gives up 31 and even mre gaudy numbers to the opposing offense.
Good point about leadership. AJ would be the perfect person for that leadership position. Problem with AJ is that he doesn't talk.... Ever.... He leads but its by example.
When they brought in Roosevelt Colvin in, they figured he would assume that veteran role for the "D". Roosevelt couldn't even make the team, although I saw where New England had just re-signed him.
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