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Discussion in 'Tennessee Titans and NFL Talk' started by JCBRAVE, Jul 8, 2012.

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  1. TitansWrath

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    Every QB can hit spot X in the NFL. That is easy. The problem, and where mechanics come in, is hitting it consistently, at the exact right time, when you are being chased by roid freaks. That is the tough part.

    I think a lot of Jake's "accuracy problems" in college stem from a horrible line, so he was always throwing on the run, off back foot, etc., and the fact that his receivers dropped a whole lot of passes.

    He has definately learned some bad habits. Hopefully, playing on a good team for a change can fix many of them.

    Remember how Eli had such horrible accuracy problems, and threw off his back foot all the time? He seems to have mostly worked that out.
     
  2. EdRomeo

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    And my point is that by the time a QB reaches the NFL they have already proven this ability.


    Jake is quite good throwing on run to the point where his accuracy is unaffected (statistically he's actually better throwing outside the pocket on the move) and generates a lot of velocity with just his arm which allows him to maintain decent accuracy throwing off balance (back foot etc).

    Jake having poor pass protection and receivers that drop passes effect his completion percentage but completion percentage is not the same thing as accuracy.
    And when you really think about it completion percentage is as much or more a team stat then an individual stat.

    Actually no I don't remember Eli ever having horrible accuracy problems.
    Even going back to Ole Miss I've always consider Eli (and all the other QBs you mentioned except for McNabb) an accurate QB.

    Eli's completion percentage has gone up as he's gained more knowledge and built chemisty within the offense but he's always been accurate to my eye.
     
  3. TitansWrath

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    Eli used to sail balls high a lot, because he was throwing off his back foot. A lot of these balls were picked off. That's what I meant.
     
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  4. Psychop1

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    JC, I just noticed that you started all of these MHvsJL threads. WTF?
     
  5. MaxFischer

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    When making comparisons, it's probably good to not include a QB whose last college game was in 1977 (Warren Moon). It was a totally different game back then.

    As far as the other QBs go...

    Eli Manning: 62.4% completion percentage in college; multiple +60% games against tough competition. A lot more accurate than Locker.

    Favre and McNair: I've said this about Favre before - he's one of the only modern QBs to have such bad completion percentages in college and have a great NFL career. The same can be said of McNair. And again, it's a more pass-friendly and qb-friendly college game these days.

    Ben Roethlisberger: Big Ben had a 69.1% completion rate in his last year at Miami of Ohio. In that year, he didn't have 1 game under 60%.

    And I don't know why you bring up Elway... he completed 64% his senior year at Stanford.


    Looking at the historic data, you can't deny that someone with Locker's poor accuracy has a slim chance at NFL success. For every Brett Favre, there's 10 David Garrards.
     
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  6. Ten_Titans

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    Completion % is a team stat, like EdRomeo said.

    Pass protection, WR ability to get open and catch the ball, even the running game will affect this stat.

    It is a useless stat if you are trying to evaluate a QBs accuracy; simply because, it is easy to see a QB's accuracy just by watching.

    All you have pointed out is this single stat. One number a compelling case does not make.

    Feel free to post the film that shows Locker is too inaccurate to be an NFL QB. But as I've said before, do you think Brady would have the same completion % if we threw him on the Jags?

    I would have thought that after pulling out all of these stats out of your arse, you would have found an interesting aspect in common.

    Favre, McNair, and Locker all played on subpar teams in college. Locker may have had it the worst, as not only was his team basically D2, he was playing the big boys week in and week out.

    yet still succeeded while he was throwing away more than any other QB in college.

    One stat isn't going to make your case.
     
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  7. TitansWrath

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    I would like to see numbers on what Lockers completion percentage is if you remove dropped passes and plays where he had to throw the ball away.

    I found this article from back before his senior season...

     
  8. CJtheBeast

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    Can we get a "Start Locker" campaign started?
     
  9. SlidePiece

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    I'm in. :highfive:
     
  10. GoT

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    firejefffisher and comehomepeyton brigade are probably availabe - just sayin'
     
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