How about KC v VY for starter?

What is ridiculous about these arguments is that they often end up being an attack on Collins. You read stuff about Collins not even being average and so forth. However, there apparently seems to be a double standard when talking about VY.

The bottom line is even if Collins is in the bottom third of QBs in the NFL he IS STILL SUPERIOR TO VY. If Collins is average he is far better than VY. The way VY has played is an embarrassment. The guy simply stinks. If that was Jay Cutler doing that there would be cries day and night to cut the worthless pile of manure but with VY we have to be concerned about some kind of special project for the poor guy.

Statistically, leadership wise...whatever VY is not even worth talking about anymore IMO and IMO he has become Andre Woolfolk, a guy we argue about for years who sucks.

Oh, I didn't know VY had so many uncles.

 

While we're at it, why did Vince have to show up Edison after he ran the wrong route? throwing his hands ups in the air in disgust, other than to make sure everyone knew that Edison made the mistake. He made a habit of pointing fingers, literally, in 2007, at his receivers after the many miss-communications that year. Maturity issues remain.

 

But it's ok when Kurt Warner and Peyton Manning do the same thing.

 

I don't know about those two. I've never seen Collins show up a teammate on the field.

 

What is really strange is how many times WRs seem to run the wrong route with Young in the game. The same WRs don't do that with another QB. Must be a conspiracy.

 

i dont think we need to be setting our quarterback standards to collins. he isnt that great. very average. not saying vince is any better though

 

If Peyton did it, it would be called "being a leader." When Vince does it, he's immature.

 

He's playing with 2nd and 3rd stringers, Edison a rookie, Hawkins...We all know his problems with routes..

 

Vince wasn't pointing fingers he was prob just like DAM that would have been big. KC is gonna have to get better under pressure if our o line isnt gonna be as strong. He can't keep running backwards losing, hes not fast at all.

 

As much as I like Hawkins I wouldn't be surprised if he was cut. When Vy threw the ball to the side line in between him and Cook it was two receivers in the same spot. I was thinking I bet Hawk ran the wrong route I have seen him do this a lot in practice. Who notice when Kc went 3 in out for like the 2-or 3 time He looked at Hemeindinger and it look like they had a few words about the check down.