Whitlock nails it

Discussion in 'Tennessee Titans and NFL Talk' started by Fanof49ASU, Jul 7, 2009.

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  1. Fanof49ASU

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    Before I left from work yesterday, I was joking with a friend about possibly having to run the gauntlet to get back to work this morning. : ) Trust me, I had more than one flashback to Steve Bartman catching that ball in Chicago. But, I didn’t post my comments (nor did Whitlock write that article) to ‘tear down Steve’. I did it hoping to open some eyes to what should be important to each and every one of us.

    There’s no question that Steve was a great quarterback....in my biased opinion, one of the best. But he dropped the ball in what I feel is the most important area of an adult’s life...being a parent. And as a parent, I’m sure he loved his kids more than anything in this world, but his children ‘are still children’ that need him, and due to his choices, he’s not there for them.

    I think Coach Fisher is wrong in saying forget about the way Steve’s life ended, and only remember his performances on the field and the work he’s done in the community. Is this truly fair to him? Why waste a good ‘life lesson’? We should remember how he fell, so that we don’t repeat it in our own lives. We should learn from his mistakes.

    The first rule that most parents learn is ‘you are now a distant second in everything’. All your ‘wants and needs’ have been replaced with your childs’ ‘wants and needs’. In my opinion, this is where Steve’s judgement became clouded.

    Steve made the same mistake many parents have made, and he paid the ultimate price for it. He put his personal desires above all else, without considering the reprocussions it could eventually have on those dearest to him. He played with fire and it not only burned him, but also his family. Sadly, he doesn’t get a chance to redeem himself. There’s no more time left on the clock for his ‘two minute drill’ with his kids....and no more Music City Miracles.

    I’m sure if Steve were here today, he’d tell each of us to quit thinking of ourselves, and concentrate on what should be most important to all of us, our families....and to learn from his mistake.
     
    #31 Fanof49ASU, Jul 8, 2009
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    Really? How specifically did he "drop the ball" being a parent? You must have him known him pretty well to know he was such a terrible parent?

    Did he provide money for them? Did he provide love to them? Did he teach them about service to the community?

    I'm sure you know the answer since you know him so well.

    Oh yes... and what exactly is that lesson? Sleep with a woman and she will murder you and kill herself?

    Sure adultery is wrong. But you are acting like... "commit adultery, get murdered... life lesson"


    Again, how do you know what Steve's personal family life was like? Are you suggesting it's better to stay in a horrible marriage over having love in your life?

    Or just that he needs to be around his children 24/7?? So he should never have done that community service work or traveled without his children, what a terrible parent!! Took time to start a business in Nashville, crucify him!


    You really don't know what the :grrr::grrr::grrr::grrr: you are talking about. Unless you really do know him very well, which I seriously doubt.

    Yeah and everyone knows the repercussions of adultery = murder/suicide. I mean that happens in what 90% of affairs today?

    You sure do cast a lot of stones against Steve. I hope you are parent of the year, never sinned in your life.

    My guess is you are a hypocrite that is regurgitating Whitlock's hate filled crap while Steve isn't even cold in the ground yet. Pretty sad.
     
    #32 Alex1939, Jul 8, 2009
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    So as long as they play football with heart, you condone adultery?
    Sterling logic there.
     
    #33 TBC_titan, Jul 8, 2009
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    Coach Fisher also stated that Steve made some decisions that weren't in his best interest. It's Fisherspeak, but everyone knows that he is more or less saying that Steve messed up and it cost him his life.
     
    #34 TBC_titan, Jul 8, 2009
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    ok...this is absolutly ridiculous...
    steve cheated...yes
    should he have died because of it...no

    cheating on your wife does not mean you will die. i have a feeling that this was set up some how...by who i dont know. it just doesnt seem right to me.

    most people who cheat on their wives dont die due to gun shots to the head. most women have a lot better ways to get back at you then killing you. following examples please
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    steve did the best he could raising his kids...he gave them a good life and taught them valuable lessons in life. and screw anyone who says that he did otherwise
     
    #35 GMITTS, Jul 8, 2009
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    condone adultery no...that isnt what it is. lets be honest though. if you took a poll of pro athletes i would almost bet that 90 to 95 % of them have cheated. it is the nature of the beast...and i would take it one step further and say 90% of their wives know about it...but wont say a damn thing about because they love the lifestyle that they live. does it make it right...no it doesnt but money does funny things to people
     
    #36 GMITTS, Jul 8, 2009
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    I didn't know him personally. No surprise there. I'm sure he loved them and provided financially for them, but he's not here now due to his choices.

    His adultery cost him more than his life.
    And no, adultery doesn't typically lead to a physical death.

    I have no idea what his marriage is like, but he was having an affair with another woman....so it couldn't be a sound one.

    I know that I am a good parent....in my opinion, a danged good one at that. I'm always there for my child and will be until I die. But I can guarantee her one thing.... I won't do her the disservice of leaving a bunch of unanswered questions after my death for her to figure out on her own.

    I'm no saint, but being a good parent is easy.
     
    #37 Fanof49ASU, Jul 8, 2009
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    I doubt if you're changing anyone's opinion around here. You're just using the Steve's death as a platform for your moralistic grandstanding while at the same time patting yourself on the back for you parenting skills.
     
    #38 From-the-stands, Jul 8, 2009
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    My parenting 'skills' were brought into question, and I answered them.

    I agree with you though....it's serving no purpose here. I won't post on this thread again.
     
    #39 Fanof49ASU, Jul 8, 2009
  28. GMITTS

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    this sounds likes a person who doesnt really know if they are being a good parent.

    everyone has a hidden secert about something that usually comes up when they pass on...so unless you tell your daughter EVERYTHING that you have ever done in your life...she to will have questions when you die. then what...you still going to be captian awesome dad???
     
    #40 GMITTS, Jul 8, 2009
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