Titans 2nd round pick at Packerchatters

I voted for Mickens not knowing who you took in rnd 1. Were any DE's available outside of Kruger? DT's?

The best players on your list not CB's are Britt (WR), Coffman (TE), Freeman (OLB), or Kruger DE. I would guess there is probably another DE or 2 who might be intriguing and might offer more value. Same with DT.

Here's the thing...this pick would somewhat depend on what you think the Titans will do with a few players. If they let Bulluck walk after this season...you take Freeman. If we let KVB go, you take the best DE. If we are gonna let Crump AND Scaife go, you take Coffman or the best TE available. Another possibility here would be Ramses Barden at WR (if available).

BTW, what RB's are available?

Gut

 

I don't know who we took in round 1, but it would have to be either Moore or Britt. I picked Moore, but it could go either way.

 

I took a WR in round two and passed on Moore only because I think our first rounder will be a CB.

 

I went Fili Moala DT USC. If we took Smith in the 1st and this guy is there in the 2nd we'd have to take him. He's gonna turn out like Haloti Ngata of the Baltimore. Gotta go defense here.

 

My responses to Gut and Big Time Titan messages:

Gut, Deon Butler, WR, Penn State

Gut, Coffman is terrible. He has no hip movement (agility) whatsoever. He also lacks blocking ability. If we were to go TE I like I guy to replace Bo Scaife and his talents in the passing game since we already have a blocker in Stevens. Ideally I would keep Scaife.

Big Time Titan, Haloti Ngata - 6'4", 345 lbs
Fili Moala - 6'4", 305 lbs

Other than there relationship (cousins), these guys are nothing alike ... yet. I hear he has room for extra weight. With that said I like Fili in the second given none of the top 3 centers are left.

 

Ah...

Sorry...misread it.

Can you possibly list the players taken in rnds one and two or provide a link to the mock where I can look over the players taken?

Gut

 

Um...

Where do you get the idea that he is...

...terrible?

...has no agility?

...lacks blocking ability?

If Coffman wasn't hurt and hurt so much, he'd probably be a first rnd pick and knock Pettigrew to 2nd best TE.

As for being terrible? He led the NCAA with 90 catches for a TE...and that was with missing a game or two and playing hurt for at least one game. Expected because he played in a spread offense? Jeremy Maclin is on the same offense so it wasn't like Coffman was the #1 guy. And he had near 1000 yds. Without listing all his accolades...he's probably the best pass catching TE in college football.

No agility? While he didn't run in the combine or at a pro day due to being injured, at a campus test (previous pro day most likely) he had a cone drill time of 4.12. Granted this is hand timed but even if it was 4.22 it'd still be the BEST time for a TE at the combine. And you don't catch 90 passes if you have no agility. If he had no agility, he wouldn't be on the field in a spread offense.

As far as blocking, because they ran a spread, he frequently was split out a bit so he's used to blocking out of a WR stance...not lined up as much tight and in a 3 point stance as a classic TE. With his frame, he can bulk up and get stronger and learn how to block better from a 3 point stance while providing excellent pass catching value from the position. Think a slower Dustin Keller...or a Todd Heap.

He has had so many foot issues I wouldn't be surprised if he feel into rnd 3...but IF he's healthy, he's a first rnd talent.

Gut

 

I dug this out of their site...here's who's been taken...and we can update this if desired...

1st rnd
1. Detroit (0-16) JASON SMITH OT Baylor
2. St. Louis (2-14) EUGENE MONROE OT Virginia
3. Kansas City (2-14) AARON CURRY LB Wake Forrest
4. Seattle (4-12) MICHAEL CRABTREE WR Texas Tech
5. Cleveland (4-12) BRIAN ORAKPO DE/LB Texas
6. Cincinnati (4-11-1) JEREMY MACLIN WR Missouri
7. Oakland (5-11) BJ RAJI DT Boston College
8. Jacksonville (5-11) MARK SANCHEZ QB USC
9. Green Bay (6-10) MICHAEL OHER OT Ole Miss
10. San Francisco (7-9) MATT STAFFORD QB Georgia
11. Buffalo (7-9) AARON MAYBIN LB Penn State
12. Denver (8-8) TYSON JACSKON DE LSU
13. Washington (8-8) ANDRE SMITH OT Alabama
14. New Orleans (8-8) MALCOM JENKINS CB Ohio State
15. Houston (8-8) CHRIS WELLS RB Ohio State
16. San Diego (8-8) EVERETTE BROWN DE/LB FSU
17. New York Jets (9-7) CLAY MATTHEWS LB USC
18. Denver (8-8) DARRIUS HAYWARD-BEY WR Florida
19. Tampa Bay (9-6) ROBERT AYERS DE Tennessee
20. Detroit (from Dallas) (9-7) PERIA JERRY DT Ole Miss
21. Philadelphia (9-6-1) KNOWSHON MORENO RB Georgia
22. Minnesota (10-6) JOSH FREEMAN QB Kansas State
23. New England (11-5) RAY MAUALUGA LB USC
24. Atlanta (11-5) RON BRACE NT Boston College
25. Miami (11-5) VONTE DAVIS CB Illinois
26. Baltimore (11-5) LARRY ENGLISH LB Northern Illinois
27. Indianapolis (12-4) EVANDER HOOD DT Missouri
28. Philadelphia (from Carolina) (12-4) WILLIAM BEATTY OT UConn
29. New York Giants (12-4) PERCY HARVIN WR Florida
30. Tennessee (13-3) ALPHONSO SMITH CB Wake Forrest
31. Arizona (9-7) DUKE ROBINSON OG Oklahoma
32. Pittsburgh (12-4) EBEN BRITTON OT Arizona

2nd rnd
1-33 Detroit BRANDON PETTIGREW TE Oklahoma State
2-34 New England SEAN SMITH S/CB Utah
3-35 St. Louis JAMES LAURINAITIS LB Ohio State
4-36 Cleveland DARRIUS BUTLER CB UConn
5-37 Seattle LOUIS DELMAS S Western Michigan
6-38 Cincinnati LeSean McCoy RB Pitt
7-39 Jacksonville BRIAN ROBISKIE WR Ohio State
8-40 Oakland KENNY BRITT WR Rutgers
9-41 Green Bay BRIAN CUSHING LB USC
10-42 Buffalo JAMON MERDEITH OT South Carolina
11-43 San Francisco SEN'DERRICK MARKS DT Auburn
12-44 Miami (from Washington) HAKEEM NICKS WR North Carolina
13-45 NY Giants (from New Orleans) ALEX MACK C California
14-46 Houston MICHAEL JOHNSON DE Georgia Tech
15-47 New England from (San Diego) JARRON GILBERT DE San Jose State
16-48 Denver MAX UNGER OL Oregon
17-49 Chicago DERRICK WILLIAMS WR Penn State
18-50 Cleveland (from Tampa Bay) LOUIS MURPHY WR Florida
19-51 Dallas DOANLD BROWN RB UConn
20-52 NY Jets PATRICK CHUNG S Oregon
21-53 Philadelphia JARED COOK TE South Carolina
22-54 Minnesota CONNOR BARWIN LB Cincinnati
23-55 Atlanta CLINT SINTIM LB Virginia
24-56 Miami LAWRENCE SIDBURY DE Richmond
25-57 Baltimore SHAWN NELSON TE Southern Mississippi
26-58 New England GERALD CODOGAN Penn State
27-59 Carolina WILLIAM MOORE S Missouri
28-60 NY Giants FILI MOALA DT USC
29-61 Indianapolis JUAQUIN IGLESIAS WR Oklahoma
30-62 Tennessee DJ MOORE CB Vanderbilt
31-63 Arizona RASHAD JENNINGS RB Liberty
32-64 Pittsburgh ERIC WOOD C Louisville

3rd rnd
1 65 Detroit PAT WHITE QB/WR West Virginia
2 66 St. Louis PHIL LOADHOLT OT Oklahoma
3 67 Kansas City
4 68 Seattle
5 69 Dallas (from Cleveland)
6 70 Cincinnati
7 71 Oakland
8 72 Jacksonville
9 73 Green Bay
10 74 San Francisco
11 75 Buffalo
12 76 N.Y. Jets (from New Orleans)
13 77 Houston
14 78 San Diego
15 79 Denver
16 80 Washington
17 81 Tampa Bay
18 82 Detroit (from Dallas)
19 83 Green Bay (from N.Y. Jets)
20 84 Denver (from Chicago)
21 85 Philadelphia
22 86 Minnesota
23 87 Miami
24 88 Baltimore
25 89 New England
26 90 Atlanta
27 91 N.Y. Giants
28 92 Indianapolis
29 93 Carolina
30 94 Tennessee
31 95 Arizona
32 96 Pittsburgh
33 97 New England (compensatory)
34 98 Cincinnati (compensatory)
35 99 Chicago (compensatory)
36 100 N.Y. Giants (compensatory