TROUBLE IN NASHVILLE

Discussion in 'Tennessee Titans and NFL Talk' started by Walldaprince, Nov 17, 2017.

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  1. HurrayTitans!

    HurrayTitans! Useless trivia knowledge champion

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    A) quote me saying NE ever had a historic defense. SPOILER: I'll save you the time, never said that.

    B) good defense wins almost every single year and (outside ATL last year) represents both teams in the SB. Yes a good QB also is there most of the time, but more than enough examples exist to say that isn't necessary. I can only find 1 example where a top 10 defense isn't.

    Most of the time, the reason the team is in the SB (aka better then almost every other team) is that they have a good TEAM. That means QB, running game and defense.
    A good QB and a good defense are not mutually exclusive. As a matter of fact, they both actually help each other based on situations the teams are put in due to the play of the opposite.

    While you see a good QB trend in the SB, it's not 100% for the winner. I see the good defense, that is (and proven by the 50+ winners) necessary.
     
  2. MariGOATa

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    Again... top QBs make SBs consistently bro. Therefore you need a QB to be good especially in todays league. Jaguars had good defenses for the past 3 years now and they never even cracked the playoffs because they had no QB. NEs defenses arent won because the defenses bails them out, and if you use Butler argument vs Seattle where he picked Wilson off then thats another weak argument. Brady had an awesome game against one of the best defenses that ever played that game.
     
  3. HurrayTitans!

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    Past 3 years jaguars D:
    2016 -25 in pts given up, 30 in takeaways
    2015- 31 in pts given up, 24 in yards, 27 in TA.
    2014- 26 in PA, 26 in YA, 24 in TA.

    What good D are you referring to in Jax?
     
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  4. TheBisco

    TheBisco Pro Bowler

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    Do you have some kinda weird iPhone update where it always makes you say "an" instead of "a?"
     
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  5. MariGOATa

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    No. I currently have iPhone 5. I wanna get the 10 though.
     
  6. xhrr

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    That's kinda what I was getting at
     
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  7. HurrayTitans!

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    Except you don't. Highly advised a surely helps, but not 100% necessary. 2 SB winning teams in the last 5 years proved it.

    How far down can the D be (in rankings among the league, not historic) and still win a SB?
     
  8. MariGOATa

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    Thats because 2015 Broncos defense will go down as one of the greatest defenses to play. Ravens 2011 defense wasnt nearly as good as the Broncos but they had/have a elite coach, and Flacco did throw for almost 4,000 yards.
     
  9. MariGOATa

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    They were ranked top 7 overall D last year. Their front wasnt as good but they had a very good secondary.
     
  10. HurrayTitans!

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    Ok, you said last 3 years and so what if they ranked 7 in yards given up? They didn't stop teams from scoring (thus the 25th ranked team) and they weren't taking the ball away (thus the 30th ranking) so to me, those yardage numbers tell me teams were beating them badly enough, they stopped trying to push the ball and relied on running and eating clock.

    Their D has been bad, including last year.
     
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