Todd McShay's 2016 NFL Mock Draft 2.0

Discussion in 'NFL Draft' started by JR1980, Feb 3, 2016.

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  1. Gut

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    Spence is a BETTER prospect for us. How is Bosa scheme diverse? Where is he gonna play in a 3-4? He's too light for DE and probably not athletic enough for OLB...especially since he's not a Von Miller quality pass rusher.

    Bosa's a very nice player, but I think we will have a good idea of him once we see him at the combine and pro day workouts to see his athleticism so we can project what he can and can't do. To me, he looks like a great LDE in a 4-3 D.

    The problem Cleveland has is that there are a handful of teams looking for a QB and there are only 2 potential top 10 first round QB's.

    Cleveland at 2, SD at 3, and Dallas at 4 alone put them all in a quandry. I do find it interesting they gave Dallas a QB but used the opposite argument for why SD wouldn't want one. Does McShay think they can't get a OT near the top of round 2? All 3 teams should be motivated to get a QB and if they are, it doesn't matter if Wentz is lighting it up or not, he did enough (and due to it being the MOST important position and from positional scarcity), everyone is moving Wentz up.

    Cleveland would be smart to move up the one spot with us to guarantee they get 'their' guy...especially if we don't ask for a King's ranson and they add in a player like Alex Mack who probably would have left anyway.

    If I were Robinson, I'd tell each QB needy team that I'm willing to move and I might even take a bit less than I should. The more teams involved, the higher the bidding war goes!!!

    Our real problem is we don't want to take a QB, LT or Bosa at #1. We will see how good Robinson is of manipulating our position to match value with need and scheme fit.
     
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    I think Robinson and the Titans need to get an idea of where THEY would take Spence...let's say pick 20 in round 1. Trade back and grab Ramsey, and then if Spence is there where we'd take him, trade back up and get him!

    Coming out of this draft with Ramsey and Spence would be huge, especially if we kick butt in FA!!! Both would be difference makers next year!!!
     
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    There's a chance, but we'll better be able to answer this question after the combine and pro day workouts. If Hargreaves runs a high 4.4...like a 4.48 as his best time, you could see Apple, Mackenzie and perhaps a few others challenge his position. In addition, there is likely to be a run on DL in round 1...perhaps 2 runs. Add a couple of extra QB's, a couple of RB's and all the 1st round DL going in round 1 and...
     
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  4. JR1980

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    Yeah I agree. We reached for "potential" too much in drafts. we can't deal with anymore projects. Our FA signings have been horrifyingly bad as well. The money that Levitre, DMC, etc....should have NEVER happened. I am really hoping that Robinson kills that noise and actually takes football players in the draft this year.
     
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    Maybe I am, but what do you think of Sterling Shepard, Tyler Boyd, Corey Colemon, Josh Docton, Laquan Tredwell, Michael Thomas, Leonte Carroo? How many was that? All better WR's than Miller at this point in time. Miller has solid upside due to his athleticism sure, but drafting better athletes than they are football players is how you get to be in the position we're in now.

    Just remembered Will Fuller is another better player for us at WR..

    Whats with everyone falling in love with a fast guy? Miller just doesnt do it for me as a WR.
     
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    Umm buddy, Johnathan Joseph is a 2 time Pro Bowl CB. Their other CB Kareem Jackson is a 1st round pick. JJ Watt gets the luxury of sometimes getting what are called coverage sacks

    When our pass rush is firing on all its cylinders its a highly effective unit, not the case in the defensive backfield. Ramsey solves a lot of our problems. Neither Spence or Bosa would overtake our current guys, why not add the best available DB this offseason?
     
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  7. steverife

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    I think being a successful college quarterback adds value. Football people seem to think it gives you a grasp on the game that you'll likely never get from a DGB or Kenny Britt.

    ...and all of those people can go above Miller and he can still be taken in the 3rd. I think something along those lines will happen.
     
  8. steverife

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    Yeah. DB is a much bigger need. How many times has a Titans rusher won their matchup and forced a throw, just to have the receiver win the ball in the air? The team needs guys that can track the ball.
     
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    WR's are an extension of the QB, so yes a WR knowing what a QB sees has a great deal of value. But when you watch Miller play it looks like he's thinking too much. He's too slow out of breaks, he doesn't yet attack the ball the way NFL receivers have to.. Im just not interested in drafting a guy that we'll have to wait on. You think DGB is raw? Miller is much more raw. DGB found his way by midseason after not playing a year, Miller wont even do that IMO. Kids easily a year of two away from being NFL ready as a WR.
     
  10. JCBRAVE

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    Ramsey can erase people, not one of our DB's can say that about themselves.

    CB is the missing piece to our team, Center is too but it takes less talent to snap a ball and pop up and block than it is to be an NFL CB.
     
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