LeSean McCoy trade

Discussion in 'Tennessee Titans and NFL Talk' started by Alex1939, Mar 3, 2015.

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  1. Titanup1982

    Titanup1982 All-Pro

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    There's no denying DGB talent. Dude has the tools to be special, but he's still a raw project with sky high upside.

    I've seen him in some mock drafts in the top 10, which is insane. There's just too many question marks with him and factor in that he didn't play at all last year.

    He reminds me of a faster and taller Antonio Bryant (former player).
     
  2. xpmar9x

    xpmar9x The Real Slim Shady

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    As @RavensShallBurn said, DGB (talent wise) is way better than Hunter. DGB would of been a Top-10 pick if he wasn't an idiot, he's more Kenny Britt than Justin Hunter.
     
  3. JR1980

    JR1980 Pro Bowler

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    That's hilarious as all hell...Fans went nuts up here when that happened too
     
  4. Gut

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    The problem is, Foles. The picks work out ONLY if the Eagles pick at 22 or lower each year. If the Eagles with Mariota pick around 30-32, then Foles has to be the value of a 2nd rnd pick for the value of the trade to be even. We need MORE than even to drop that far IMO.

    Over the long haul this would be a good trade for us if Foles can come here and be a good starting QB or we can trade him for a 2nd or 3rd rnd pick simply because those 1's will be good players we need but they won't serve us well for a few years. Another reason I dont see Webster making a deal like this. He'll 'set up' the roster for the next guy.

    I don't watch a ton of Philly games but this is what I saw. In year one, the league had zero ability to handle Chip's offense with it's playmakers....DeSean Jackson and Shady were the focal points and with so much speed and mis-direction, Foles seemed to have a ton of time, not much pressure and not a lot of 3rd and 10's to throw into. In year 2, defenses had better preparation so Shady had a lot tougher time running (or maybe that was injuries to the OL) which meant Foles had more pressure on him, fewer playaction throws with no pressure and a lot more 3rd and 10's. It is why Mark Sanchez can actually look like a good starting QB running this system when he similarly, can play without pressure and not many reads. When things aren't going so well, he goes back to being Mark Sanchez!

    I would take this deal from the Jets without Foles of course. Or the Bears.

    Only way I see this deal happening (and it's a good trade offer and one I would assume gets made if the Eagles wanna move up) is if the Titans sign Suh.

    Or, if they give me Fletcher Cox or Lane Johnson or Jordan Matthews I'd probably do it as any of these guys would start for us and are good players. Maybe we can get 2 of them!
     
  5. Gut

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    After the combine, I'll be shocked if Trae Waynes makes it out of the top 10. I see almost no chance he could fall to 20. I have a feeling DGB doesn't make it out of rnd 1. I think Orchard will be around at the top of the 3rd after his combine. I like Fisher but not a big fan of Perryman or Matias.
     
  6. JR1980

    JR1980 Pro Bowler

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    Man people sleep on Foles. The kid is solid, he is just not built for the Eagles fast paced spread style 15 yard dump offense. Two years ago before that system was in place and he got time to throw, he had 27tds and 2 int's. Sick ratio. He is not a flash in the pan and I would take him in a heartbeat. Much better and more accurate than he gets credit for, and I have seen a lot of him because I live in the Philly area.
     
  7. Gut

    Gut Pro Bowler

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    PFF's rankings are meaningless. And being last on a list doesn't make you bad. One of the main reasons he's last is because he ran a lot more and caught fewer passes so his ypt isn't boosted as much by receptions. Forte had a sub-4.0 ypc running the ball but had over 100 receptions to boost his ypt. Was he a better player last year than McCoy? No.

    Also, what did he have happening at QB? Not much good so teams were focused on stopping him...and they didn't do a great job of that.
     
  8. Gut

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    What do you mean he's not built for Chip's offense? That's the offense he did so well in in 2013!!! And if he's so accurate, why did his completion % drop over 4% this last season after posting a career high in 2013...in the same system?

    If the few games I saw of Foles last season, he was missing a lot of throws he made the previous year. Not sure why, but you can't assume he'll play to his best and ignore the rest of his body of work.
     
  9. JR1980

    JR1980 Pro Bowler

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    First of all, the system wasn't fully in play 2013....Second of all, he didn't have Maclin in 2013 but he did have Desean. Thirds, the offense he ran in ARZ in college was insanely different than Chip's. I, not arguing that he didn't decline a bit in 2014, but he still has goods. He is not a moving QB and is much like Mett. Big guy, big arm, needs protection.
     
  10. JR1980

    JR1980 Pro Bowler

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    The kid is 24 on a rookie contract and showed he can win. He doesn't suck is all I'm saying. He clearly doesn't fit Chips system hence why they are going to give up the house to get Mariota who is more mobile and used to short throw spread offense, he complete opposite of Foles. We would be lucky to have him fight it out with Mett in TN IMO.
     
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