Re-watched game focusing on Schwenke and Warmack

Discussion in 'Tennessee Titans and NFL Talk' started by Titans2004, Oct 22, 2013.

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  1. tnfan47

    tnfan47 Let's Get It

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    I totally agree. They need to spread him around more. Design plays where he's in the open field. Everyone saw what he can do on a well blocked screen play. Dude was untouched for 66 yards.
     
  2. Clark

    Clark #ShoutboxAlley4Life

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    Farve made the Vikings contenders... AP while great, is a side piece.

    Yes you have to have playmakers and the majority of the time your QB creates them. You don't need amazing one off playmakers like AP and CJ to win a SB. You need consistent play out of solid talent. Eli manning didn't win 2 SBs on his own. Tyrese caught an unbelievable ball off his helmet to allow it... He was cut the next season. Their defense beat Brady. Name the Patriots starting RB/WRs... Bradshaw is no playmaker. Flacco caught fire and started making the most unbelievable throws. Bolden made consistent plays and catches every game for him. Bailed him out. Is known as one of the slowest WRs in the game. Ray rice was splitting carries with a rookie who was outplaying him during the game. Their trip to the bs was off a mistimed jump by a defender on Jacoby jones... Jacoby freaking jones...

    If flacco can find a way to take that team to the SB... If Eli mannings scrub ass who's still got the same team he was there with basically... Can get there and win... Yet this year fall flat on his face... Locker has a chance with Wright, Washington, hunter and a couple young talented RBs.

    You give the defense a difference maker on the D line... You find us a shut down corner. An Albert haynseworth... I'll gladly trade CJ for them.

    The best teams are built on the D line and the Qb. Playmakers like JJ watt who dominate game in and game out... Changes a team. CJ who might make 1 big play doesn't. Might..
     
  3. blacktitan

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    I agree whole heartedly with the bolded parts of your quote. I disagree with the underlined parts. Eli Manning is a playmaker QB. Joe Flacco is a playmaker QB. I am not saying the Titans need a Playmaker RB, I am saying they need playmakers, period. Yet, the Titans don't have the QB play approaching what Flacco and E. Manning have done. There is no way the Titans make the playoffs with serviceable RB's and Locker, Wright, and Washington as the skill players on O. They have had that for the last two years and where have they gone?

    I think you don't understand the concept of a playmaker. Playmakers make plays when others have proven they couldn't. Their skills are irreplaceable. Sometimes they make their opportunties to make plays, but most times, the role players and coaching places them in positions to make plays when other players who aren't playmakers couldn't. Other teams have to adjust for playmakers. This makes other players more effective. Without CJ's playmaking ability, do you think Locker would be nearly as effective? Look at how the Titans fared with CJ and VY in the back field. That team would went to the playoffs, as undisciplined and immature as VY was. His playmaking abilty caused the other teams to adjust what they did. Nobody, absolutely no one on the Titans O (or D for that matter), outside of CJ, causes any team to do anything differently than what they want do. You beat teams by attacking their weaknesses and getting them out of their strengths. If teams don't have to adjust to your playmakers, they play to their strengths. This is what the titans run up against game in and game out. Teams basically can do what they want to do on O because of a lack of playmakers on the Titans D. The scheme has helped to bring a D that was last in the league a year ago, to decent to good this year. But that is as far as they will go without some playmakers on D.
     
  4. Clark

    Clark #ShoutboxAlley4Life

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    I understand perfectly what one player does in the domino effect of the game. I however don't see teams doing that much to stop CJ.
     
  5. acqua7

    acqua7 Pro Bowler

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    I hear your argument...I just don't know why you used Flacco as a "playmaker' example - I still think he is grossly overpaid and has (along with Eli) hampered his GM's ability to make moves.

    Some other QB's take up a ton of cap space, but those guys are actual elite playmakers where they no doubt make the guys around them better i.e. Peyton, Brees, Rodgers & Brady.

    Expanding on the % of cap and looking forward to our team - I truly believe Jake is the type of guy who would take less money so he could win. We know that money isn't important to Jake since he passed up the oppurtuinty to go #1 or #2 in the draft prior, to play another year at Washington.
     
  6. TitansWillWin2

    TitansWillWin2 Pro Bowler

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    That's because you don't understand football or don't understand defensive coverage's. You're just an average clueless fan who knows nothing.
     
  7. TitansWillWin2

    TitansWillWin2 Pro Bowler

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    Peterson only averaged 2 yard a carry last game. Maybe the Vikings should release him as well.

    Peterson is finally getting a look at what CJ sees every week.
     
  8. Clark

    Clark #ShoutboxAlley4Life

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    CJ doesn't see 8 in the box that often. Seahawks did but 9ers didn't. However even if we do see 8 why still run it? Isn't the point to force the look and open up the outside?
     
  9. rodgev

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    Agree with everything except for biting the Jags. I used to live there trust me when I say you want no parts of putting your mouth on anything from that city lol
     
  10. blacktitan

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    Considering the market for elite, playmaking QB's and how important QB play is for teams to be successful in today's NFL, I don't think Flacco and Eli are over paid. Are they elite QB's like Brady, Brees, Rogers, or Peyton? Heck no. But, considering that you only have truly a handful of elite playmaking QB's on the planet right now, paying more for the likes of Flacco and Eli, who have shown they can make plays, if not as consistently as the truly elite QB's, is not a bad investment by a team. Of course, you'd have to put pieces around them, and have some elite players on D, but that is what makes football the ulitmate team sport.
     
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