Anyone kinda miss Vince Young?

Everyone was always saying it wasn't Vince's fault, it were the receivers. Well when Collin came in, he made our receivers look like Pro Bowlers. Justin Gage had a career year and caught over a hundred yards on the Top 2 Defenses in the NFL.

 

I would hardly say he made them look like pro bowlers. He may have made them look half way competent. Our TE was the leading reciever last year.

 

Ultra talented? Are you kidding me? This post is a joke right?

32 total TDs vs 38 total turnovers ....

He did not deserve the Pro Bowl he did not deserve OROY. He walked off the field at the first sign of adversity in our first game of the season against a team that finish last in our division.

Maybe it was his 27 yards per game that he got last season on the ground. Oh I particularly loved him having to be drug back on the field by the HC after he was a total failure against the Jags. To think this guy is going to do anything more then fail is delusional. Even his rookie year he got handed a pass by every media person less Hodge that could. Sounds a lot like David Carr to me.

He had to get a team full of policemen to follow him around because they thought he was going to commit suicide; or maybe it was his half shirted tequila party ... you know to bond or what ever he was trying to do. Player quit on him; he quits on himself. I am even starting to think that Chow got totally jobbed by being forced to take him. Now we even picked up a has-not as a backup just to hedge against him completely sucking AGAIN this season. What does that show you? To me that shows that not one of our coordinators believe he will be anything. Plenty of players have produced in college and sucked in college. The sooner the Titans realize they have the same thing the faster we can move on.

Anyone notice how last season not one of the players backed him? Kind of telling IMO.

 

Gage has less yards this year than last.

 

You mean the time he was at a friends place eating Wings?

Really? You are going to rag on a guy for having a social life?

Like no one backed Haynesworth right?

 

I don't necessarily blame the receivers for Vince's personal shortcomings, but facts are facts......their lousy performance played a huge role in Vince's subpar performance in 2007.

They didn't have a huge number of drops, but the ones they did drop were critical. They dropped roughly 8-9 TD's that season, which means they literally dropped as many TD's as they caught. Literally. And I'm not talking about difficult catches, here.....I'm talking about very catchable balls that hit them in the numbers, or hit them in stride with both hands on the ball. (Then there's the BJones drop against Indy....arguably the team's most critical drop since Drew Bennett had "The Drop" in 2003.)

The way I see it, a drop is far more demoralizing than a simple incompletion....especially for a young QB. When a QB misses an open receiver, he says to himself, "Damn....I gotta hit it next time." But when he delivers a well-thrown TD pass and the receiver just plain dumps it, the quarterback thinks, "I made the read, I made the throw, I did everything exactly right....and still we come up empty-handed. What the #%#^*# do I have to do to score some points?"

I think this also played a big role in Vince's mental state going into the 2008 season. If you'll recall, the receivers were beyond absymal throughout the preseason...not just for Vince, but for Collins, as well. Virtually every preseason game had the receivers dropping multiple passes, including some that would have resulted in big plays. (Remember Gage's drop against the Falcons? Ridiculous.)

A veteran QB like Collins is better equipped to deal with that kind of frustration....but for a young, inconsistent QB whose confidence is already shaken, this is just throwing fuel on the fire.

I can't help but think that by the time the season started, Vince's faith in his receiving corps was already shot. The ugly INT early in the Jags game knocked him down even further....and then McCareins had yet another bad drop on what would have been a 30+ yard gain. Vince's 2nd INT was obviously the last straw that sent him over the edge.

(The irony here is that this INT wasn't so much a bad throw by Vince as it was a spectacular play by Derrick Harvey. The play was designed to exploit a rookie DE in his first professional game; the fact that he sniffed out the play, stopped his pass rush and dropped into coverage just as Vince released the ball was simply remarkable.)

I'm not trying to make apologies for Vince; Lord knows he's got plenty of problems and shortcomings that he'll have to fix if he wants to continue his career in the NFL. I'm simply trying to dispel the rumor that the WR's had nothing to do with his struggles. The fact is, their poor performance contributed greatly to his struggles and his shaky state of mind.

To illlustrate: Let's say that instead of dropping 50% of their TD opportunities, they drop only 20% of them....still bad, but not horrendous. With a 20% drop rate, Vince would have had roughly 14 TD/17 INT's. Hardly a banner year, but head and shoulders better than the 1:2 TD/INT ratio Vince ended up with. With a reasonable number of drops, Vince's season would have been mediocre; but with the abysmal performance of the receivers, that mediocrity became downright awful. The difference between 14/17 and 9/17 had nothing to do with Vince's performance...and yet he gets 100% of the blame.

 

No I am talking about that time he was found at the stadium with an unloaded hand gun. Or did you forget that one?

I seriously do not need to bring in the pick of Young with the patron bottle waisted at a night club while he was working with out WR do I?

I never did and have taken heat since i started posting on this board. I guess not supporting a guy who stomped on the chest of our starting C and had repeatedly taken off plays and averaged playing 13 games a season because he was a slug and only steps up when the money was on the table is a guy we should admire?

 

No, they are one and the same over blown incident

http://views.washingtonpost.com/the...9/v-young-titans-have-late-night-meeting.html

Who cares? And it was actually when he was back at Texas for study.

I'm talking the players.

 

Hey di you know that Steve McNair was pulled over for driving drunk and they found an unloaded gun in his car? No? Ah well it happened.

 

Actually I am very aware of the incident. You are not seriously comparing McNair to Young are you?